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Old 01-27-2006, 12:15 PM
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I have a query regarding Playtech's Roulette game.

Has anyone else noticed that strategies will work at first but after a while they fail miserably. I am working on a theory that the software is designed to recognise certain patterns in play and then invoke commands to counter act the strategy.

I have devised a system which seems to work (so far) when playing playtech casinos. It involves 5 strategies with 3 betting systems that are interchangable. Using this software based strategy the game can't seem to record accuratly what strategy the player is using and, thus, you end up with a significant amount of wins.

I'm not selling or sharing this system.

I am just asking has anyone else noticed that playtech casinos have a sort of intelligence to counter your strategy.
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Old 01-27-2006, 02:24 PM
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They have an intelligence called the house edge that's going to beat any system you've got if you play long enough. That's roulette. The bets don't pay off at even odds. You're 37 to 1 to hit, but if you hit, you only get paid off at 35 to 1. That mathematical difference can't be overcome by betting systems.
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Old 01-27-2006, 02:59 PM
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They have an intelligence called the house edge that's going to beat any system you've got if you play long enough. That's roulette. The bets don't pay off at even odds. You're 37 to 1 to hit, but if you hit, you only get paid off at 35 to 1. That mathematical difference can't be overcome by betting systems.


That's if you're playing on a table.
Software works differently. Everyone knows what you just said, and everyone knows that each roll of the ball is independent of the previous outcome.
Playtech software is a computer game, designed by a programmer who learned how to program in college, the exact same as tombraider, half life, metal gear solid....etc.

I believe that, after hours of play, that a monitoring system exists that counters strategies after a specific count has been reached. Ever notice how a strategy suddenly fails to work? This is why.

The way to beat it is simple enough to explain but as I'm not in the business of sharing this information I'll keep it vague in the hope that another poster has experinced the same anomoly.

In 1989 Gary Kasparov played IBM's Deep Thoughts in a game of chess and wiped the floor with it. In 1996 IBM challenged Kasparov to another game against the updated Deep Blue, Kasparov was again the victor. In 1997 IBM's further update 'Deeper Blue' beat Kasparov 3.5 to 2.5, it later emerged that IBM hired 10 of the worlds leading grandmasters that had studied Kasparovs many thousands of playing strategies. Basically they had made a machine that was specifically designed to beat one Grand master. On hearing this Kasparov asked for a rematch on the condition that he also be allowed to study Deeper Blue's startegies. IBM have never responded.

In a interview an IBM programmer explained Kasparov success in one sentence 'Computers cannot be programmed to understand sacrifice'.
This is the basis of the research and strategy I have put in place to beat playtech's roulette software. When players use an internet casino they think 'roulette table', not 'series of code', which is what it is.

Each spin is independent of the previous spin, but each bet is not independent of the previous bet. The software will monitor your bets and fit them into various catagories, each catagory being based on a different strategy, when that catagory reaches it 'counter strike' number the software will invoke it counter strike commands. That finishes your strategy.

The only way to confound the computers 'counter strike number' is to sacrifice. As Kasparov proved, the biggest computer company in the world could not program a computer to understand 'sacrifice'.
Do you think playtech can.....I doubt it!

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Old 01-28-2006, 05:27 AM
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There's a principle called Occam's Razor that says that the simplest explanation is usually the correct explanation.

The simplest explanation for a betting system not working on a Playtech roulette game is that the house has an advantage based on the odds of winning versus the payout odds.

I don't see any reason Playtech would design a roulette software that does anything other than randomly select one of the 38 numbers. The only reason to program it to do otherwise would be if the player had an advantage, or if a betting system worked. Since the player has a disadvantage, and betting system's don't work, I can't imagine they would have any reason to rig the software.
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Old 04-24-2007, 07:24 AM
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I've played a good deal online much to the horror of many of my more enlightened colleagues. They say that the computer learns your strategy and then plays against you.
I can see this happening with unscrupulous online casinos but the better ones would not dare risk their reputations with this simple deception.

Keep more than one strategy going at the same time and keep your bets small and they have no trouble with your consistent winning.
How do I know? Because I've been doing it for years.

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